so heres an idea that will fix every current problem on ws. restart everything, items, accounts, levels, everything. this will give players something new to do, and will bring old players back. the economy is fixed, and the people who sit on alot of rares, they should not be angry in the slightest because they dont play. no one plays. the obvious response to this is that "players will be unhappy because they worked so hard at their skills." its to bad that its an rsps and people truly care about this game that their gameplay is played afk. we should vote for this, and i have found a solution for the voting. put a link to a different website that is able to regulate polls based on the ip address. boom problem (attempted to be) solved.
as anyone can see, this will not be read by admin for 3-5 days, and will not be posted on by them. besides, it would make way to much since to fix broken game.
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"the games not broken" - daily afkers
or maybe so the game can be enhanced, how bout ryan teach the owners (coders?) how to code this server.
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I'm going to support this no matter what others say.
Or bring Blitz back.
Quote from: Kryptonite on April 28, 2012, 12:04:53 PM
Or bring Blitz back.
That would be the day if we could bring it back. One problem there - Lazy people who are scared of change.
bring maybe the first pking style back after blitz
i think you cant restart it because people pay to get stuff real cash.
Quote from: gomes97 on April 28, 2012, 12:32:49 PM
bring maybe the first pking style back after blitz
i think you cant restart it because people pay to get stuff real cash.
I would keep the pking as it is.
Quote from: Kryptonite on April 28, 2012, 01:22:50 PM
Explain.
Classic came back because they did not like blitz, why would they like it now?
Quote from: Wild on April 28, 2012, 01:33:51 PM
Classic came back because they did not like blitz, why would they like it now?
A few people would hate it at first. Just because they're lazy. But it would be better for everyone.
There's no point in discussing it though, I doubt it will happen.
Quote from: Wild on April 28, 2012, 01:33:51 PM
Quote from: Kryptonite on April 28, 2012, 01:22:50 PM
Explain.
Classic came back because they did not like blitz, why would they like it now?
Well it's obvious no one likes Classic either...
I never said I didn't like it. It's all the stupid lazyfags who don't even play anymore...
Quote from: Kryptonite on April 28, 2012, 02:23:32 PM
I never said I didn't like it. It's all the stupid lazyfags who don't even play anymore...
You never did. Immense amount of players bitched about it.
Restarting will lose more players than gained. Take a look at what happened when Blitz left, they had to link there accounts but some were lost. If skills were reset, alot of people would quit. I do not agree.
But, I believe if ryan & kevin got into gear & added alot more things into the game (items, equips, map's, etc) we'd have more interest & will be able to create a better enviroment for other people. We have developers etc but, we do need upgrades in items, skills and many more.
I also think making some of the really easy skills harder to level (woodcutting, cooking, herb, rc, FM, farm) and rthese when they come out (Fletch etc) , that way people don't need to say "oh, it was easy"
Making it twice as hard to level would be a good option in the fact that it'd keep people busy and focussed. Or overall, juts make the leveling harder all together. This would make the PKING more advanced because your levels will be different. You may suck, you may own. It's test of power in this way.
No matter what others say i think the economy should be reset, Pking taken back so you can 3 hit, choc-ice was a main source of pking, pumpkins healed full health, you can do the command ::ilovechocice for 100 choc-ice and you can use 2 handed weapons with shields.
Thats just what i think.
Quote from: wolf on May 14, 2012, 06:09:14 AM
No matter what others say i think the economy should be reset, Pking taken back so you can 3 hit, choc-ice was a main source of pking, pumpkins healed full health, you can do the command ::ilovechocice for 100 choc-ice and you can use 2 handed weapons with shields.
Thats just what i think.
Worldscape has gone way to far for it to go back.
Going back might be the only way to bring it foward.
What about just forget about all of it, and just wait till the 2nd world is out. We can start all over again @ world 2 and we don't have to be scared that are items getting deleted cause you'll just start all over again in the 2nd world.
The worldscape owners have performed a few Eco-resets and it doesn't help, it encourages players to quit since they'll have to start again and eventually, the game turns out to be exactly the same as it was, before the reset, just with different players holding the upper-hand.
What Worldscape needs is an economy that works, it needs a working input of gold for players, as well as an output, the input of gold would be general labour (fishing, woodcutting etc) the output of gold being the purchase of necessities (runes, food etc). The game will need the right balance of these two inputs and outputs for the economy to work.
If Allgofree owners manage to achieve such a system, then they should consider an eco-reset, but i wouldnt recommend it, as allowing the game to flow with the new economy in tact, would work better than having a total reset, this does not mean that admins and moderators should not be on the look out for players who have a large quantity of the same object.
Im going to cut it short since my PC has already decided to crash twice during the writing of this post :S
Quote from: The Real Pkz on May 15, 2012, 01:54:18 PM
The worldscape owners have performed a few Eco-resets and it doesn't help, it encourages players to quit since they'll have to start again and eventually, the game turns out to be exactly the same as it was, before the reset, just with different players holding the upper-hand.
What Worldscape needs is an economy that works, it needs a working input of gold for players, as well as an output, the input of gold would be general labour (fishing, woodcutting etc) the output of gold being the purchase of necessities (runes, food etc). The game will need the right balance of these two inputs and outputs for the economy to work.
If Allgofree owners manage to achieve such a system, then they should consider an eco-reset, but i wouldnt recommend it, as allowing the game to flow with the new economy in tact, would work better than having a total reset, this does not mean that admins and moderators should not be on the look out for players who have a large quantity of the same object.
Im going to cut it short since my PC has already decided to crash twice during the writing of this post :S
Your post is so contradicting. You say we don't need to reset or have an economy fix, but then you also say we need an input of gold for players as-well as output. We don't have that right now, nor will we unless items regain value again. How do we put value back into items? Get rid of the inflation. The only way to so that is to scratch everything and start over. Right now we have ::runes and shit, which honestly was a mistake all around and should be taken out. You can't just forget the money and use items for the basis for currency, because items aren't valuable anymore either. The only things that have value at the moment are rares, which in my opinion is f*cking stupid, because rares in no way help skilling at all, they just 'make you look cool'. Yes this 2nd world may be cool so everyone is satisfied, but my worry is that everyone is just going to stay greedy and never leave world 1. It's like what Kevin suggested. Yeah I can empty my entire bank instead of fighting for this economy fix, but that won't help the rest of the economy because someone can just give me max cash and 1k barrow sets again. It's only half-fixing the problem and in my eyes; won't solve much (other than shutting up everyone, i.e. stop the complaining about everything).
Quote from: Recoil on May 15, 2012, 03:30:10 PM
Quote from: The Real Pkz on May 15, 2012, 01:54:18 PM
Your post is so contradicting. You say we don't need to reset or have an economy fix, but then you also say we need an input of gold for players as-well as output. We don't have that right now, nor will we unless items regain value again. How do we put value back into items? Get rid of the inflation. The only way to so that is to scratch everything and start over. Right now we have ::runes and shit, which honestly was a mistake all around and should be taken out. You can't just forget the money and use items for the basis for currency, because items aren't valuable anymore either. The only things that have value at the moment are rares, which in my opinion is f*cking stupid, because rares in no way help skilling at all, they just 'make you look cool'. Yes this 2nd world may be cool so everyone is satisfied, but my worry is that everyone is just going to stay greedy and never leave world 1. It's like what Kevin suggested. Yeah I can empty my entire bank instead of fighting for this economy fix, but that won't help the rest of the economy because someone can just give me max cash and 1k barrow sets again. It's only half-fixing the problem and in my eyes; won't solve much (other than shutting up everyone, i.e. stop the complaining about everything).
I agree that the only way the economy will be fixed is by resetting duplicates, but a system that creates a working economy must first be established.. otherwise the game will end up exactly the same as it is now, with the old players in procession of alot of the rares, not trading them because they want to collect them, this is because they have nothing else to spend their money on, they get their supplies for free (::runes and ::food) this means that a player that has just started at Worldscape, cannot progress up the money ladder until they strike a bit of luck, this would be solved if money (gp) was needed to buy supplies, and if money (gp) actually had a value (this has been mentioned earlier in this thread)
The economy would also operate more smoothy if only duplicate items were wiped, this will give the economy a little push so everyone doesnt start off with absolutely nothing and will get the game up and running again, faster. This reset should not be reset either, this has little to do with the economy
Quote from: The Real Pkz on May 15, 2012, 04:20:17 PM
I agree that the only way the economy will be fixed is by resetting duplicates, but a system that creates a working economy must first be established.. otherwise the game will end up exactly the same as it is now, with the old players in procession of alot of the rares, not trading them because they want to collect them, this is because they have nothing else to spend their money on, they get their supplies for free (::runes and ::food) this means that a player that has just started at Worldscape, cannot progress up the money ladder until they strike a bit of luck, this would be solved if money (gp) was needed to buy supplies, and if money (gp) actually had a value (this has been mentioned earlier in this thread)
The economy would also operate more smoothy if only duplicate items were wiped, this will give the economy a little push so everyone doesnt start off with absolutely nothing and will get the game up and running again, faster. This reset should not be reset either, this has little to do with the economy
So, if we delete all duped items, people will somehow have massive amounts of duped items again is what you're getting at?
Yea, somehow.. the admins have reset the game in the past ( a few times ) and worldscape always turns out the same, its because their isn't a working system for the economy to grow, there's also nothing to spend GP on which makes it worthless, making rares the currency of the game - which only some players are in possession of and new players cannot get a hold of
Quote from: The Real Pkz on May 16, 2012, 08:13:43 AM
Yea, somehow.. the admins have reset the game in the past ( a few times ) and worldscape always turns out the same, its because their isn't a working system for the economy to grow, there's also nothing to spend GP on which makes it worthless, making rares the currency of the game - which only some players are in possession of and new players cannot get a hold of
Which is why we delete the items so they have value again... People won't get duped items if it happens. That makes no sense in any way.
We have never deleted player's items. :o
We need world 2 to open A.S.A.P i think we will get more players if it restarts.
World 2 - Epic Idea
We should be able to have a PKING world just for the PKers :)
Quote from: Mia on May 18, 2012, 02:09:53 AM
World 2 - Epic Idea
We should be able to have a PKING world just for the PKers :)
Omg World 2 could totally have the old school Pking. Even though putting the three hit and eating *GLITCH* would be hard to put back in ;D
Wolf, i just love how your banner says great economy, and you think there should be a reset.
Quote from: Joris on May 18, 2012, 04:34:55 PM
Wolf, i just love how your banner says great economy, and you think there should be a reset.
"Hey, our server has a terrible economy! Come play it!"
GL with that one.
Lol yeah just figured youre 100% right. too bad thats not a good thing for any way shape or form.