Poll
Question:
Would you like this?
Option 1: Yes
votes: 50
Option 2: No
votes: 38
Option 3: Don't care either way
votes: 1
In the past few days some of the members of WorldScape has been proposing this idea, and as they asked I am making a poll on what exactly we will do.
We will not be removing every single item in WorldScape, we will be setting them back. For instance in the past there was dupes on WorldScape, which is pretty obvious. We are going to be setting the stacks of those items in each players bank down to a lower number(Not sure what number yet, you guys can debate below on which number). For example. Say I have 1,000,000 Dharok's Helm. Now obviously that is way too many for 1 person to have. So we will be setting that stack of 1,000,000 Helmets down to say 2,000. We will be doing this to every single item in the game, except a few. That is where you guys come in.
Here is a small list of items I came up with already:
Shark(385)
Pure Essence(7936)
Raw Shark(383)
Those are example items we are not going to roll-back. Now, this is where you guys come in again. We need it to be in that format "ItemName(ItemID)" in order for us to know which item we need to not roll back. If we don't agree with it, we won't do it. Now we don't need items like Bandos, Armadyl, ect. because nobody should have more then say 10-20 of those. So the roll-back will not effect those items. We are mainly looking at Wood, Ores, Raw fish, Cooked fish, tokens, ect. If you guys can get those and post them below I will add them to the list of items to not roll-back.
If you vote yes, please explain why you voted yes.
If you vote no, please explain why you voted no.
I LOVE you for this! I definitely think this'd be a great idea so we could have some actual currency and items could have value again.
Items not to delete:
Feather(314)
Fishing bait(313)
Reward token(7776)
Snowball(10501)
I'll find more soon. Thanks for this!
Voted yes because I think this would help worldscape change for the better. For the barrows armour/rune boots and other items to that nature be reset lower than 2,000? That's still a lot for one person to have. If there were less then people would actually bother to pick them up when pking in wildy.
Edit: Also, what is going to happen to ::northpole? When coins are reset you could still just spend a few hours there and get max cash again. I'm sure you have already thought about all of this. I'm just making sure that this is going to be done right, I'm not worried at all because I know the allgofree staff will be very thorough while doing this. :).
You guys pick the number. If you guys can all agree on a number to lower them to, we will do it. Start thinking of a number.
I'm proposing a big fat 0. It's a starting number anyway. :P
I agree with jake on the whole item deleting worldscape dieing theory. most of the players have gotten their items for a reason, and to be truthful, on a daily basis of good pking, i'd go through 2k dh sets like a soda. i voted no because its nice to have plently of items to spare, you can help new players with them, give them to friends if they're out of something, and just mess around with em. dropping them at random times is hilarous. kids will be like, wtf? how'd that happen? while you're just sitting their laughing your ass off. :D but yes, i like my items, and ive kept them for a reason.
Quote from: garrdrenn1 on January 11, 2012, 09:15:24 PM
I'm proposing a big fat 0. It's a starting number anyway. :P
Ehh not zero. Tons of rares would be completely deleted. That'd piss tons of people off, especially people with berets or something. I'd say something like 25 so the more valuable items don't get deleted forever, yet duped things like barrows people won't have thousands of anymore.
25 is a pretty reasonable number.
Bronze Arrow Tips(39)
iron arrows tips(40)
steel arrow tips(41)
Mith Arrow Tips ( 42)
Addy arrow tips(43)
rune arrow tips(44)
Magic logs (1513)
Raw lobster ( 377)
Silver Bar( 2355)
Uncut Dragon stone(1631)
Uncut sapphire(1623)
Uncut Emerald(1621)
Uncut Onyx (6571)
Uncut Diamond (1617)
Uncut Ruby( 1619)
Iron Ore ( 440)
Coal Ore( 453)
Mith Ore ( 447)
addy Ore ( 449)
Rune Ore (451)
Feathers ( 314)
Arrow Shaft (52)
Eye of Newt( 221)
Vial of Water( 227)
Clean avantoe ( 261)
Clean torstol (269)
clean lantadyme (2481)
clean snapdragon (3000)
Clean snake weed( 1526)
Clean rogue's purse (1534)
Unf cadantine potion (107)
Unf Toadflax potion (3002)
Unf rannar potion (99)
Unf Dwarf Weed Potion (109)
Vial (229)
Unf Avantoe potion (103)
Void Knight Gloves (8842)
Void Knight Top (8839)
Void Knight robe (8840)
Void Mage helm (11663)
void seal(8) ( 11666)
Void ranger helm (11664)
Void melee helm (11665)
Void Knight Mace (8841)
Fire Cape ( 6570)
Mint Cake (9475)
Onyx Necklace (6577)
Teak Planks ( 8780)
Boxing Gloves( 7673)
Black Boater (7327)
Gloves (7462)
ham hood (4302)
ham boots ( 4310)
ham cape (4304)
Sled ( 4084)
cooked Shark (385)
Cooked Manta ray (391)
Rune Shard (6466)
A Few More to come.
I voted yes because, I do believe this will help the server alot items will have value..again :) and I would honestly love it :D Next Thing you guys should work on is the rares and stuff :) all those random item rares quite annoying but one thing at a time i guess :)
I have about 10 accounts all with a lot of duped stuff, so after the update I still could have a lot of items.
Remove all barrows! (: Do not remove skilling gear like logs etc.
this is biggest bullshit i have seen in ws history, gratz for the new low... this should not happen, some ppl worked real hard for masses of rares, like me. items wont be rare anyway if u got 100k or 1k of an item. so f*ck this shit! vote no for this! =))))) ;) :) :) not mad, just pissed... :D ;D
Quote from: rare4life on January 12, 2012, 03:32:00 PM
this is biggest bullshit i have seen in ws history, gratz for the new low... this should not happen, some ppl worked real hard for masses of rares, like me. items wont be rare anyway if u got 100k or 1k of an item. so f*ck this shit! vote no for this! =))))) ;) :) :) not mad, just pissed... :D ;D
Explain to me how an item is rare if people have thousands of that single item?
Quote from: rare4life on January 12, 2012, 03:32:00 PM
this is biggest bullshit i have seen in ws history, gratz for the new low... this should not happen, some ppl worked real hard for masses of rares, like me. items wont be rare anyway if u got 100k or 1k of an item. so f*ck this shit! vote no for this! =))))) ;) :) :) not mad, just pissed... :D ;D
I think you must be confused about what will happen if they do this. Please explain what you think is going to happen?
kevin, its the same 1k or 100k, not rare either way... 100k is just way more cool... and garret, u should see my bank ;D... but i wont sell parts of my bank for anything, i collected for years... for what?? nothing i guess -.- if this update passes, i probably quit, or come online rarely
No offense, but do some of you even read the first post entirely?
Quote from: rare4life on January 12, 2012, 04:00:34 PM
kevin, its the same 1k or 100k, not rare either way... 100k is just way more cool... and garret, u should see my bank ;D... but i wont sell parts of my bank for anything, i collected for years... for what?? nothing i guess -.- if this update passes, i probably quit, or come online rarely
If I was you, I'd double read my first post carefully. As I said, we are
not removing items completely, just lowering the amount of them currently in-game.
No!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :(
Proposing a new number. How about 10?
Edit: Manta Ray(391)
It seems like the only people saying no are people with masses of duped items... That's saying something.
Yea I duped...... lol. NO I did not but it's just cool to have lot's of items
Quote from: D E A T H on January 12, 2012, 07:24:27 PM
Yea I duped...... lol. NO I did not but it's just cool to have lot's of items
I never said that.. But some of the items you have are duped so you shouldn't have them anyway.
Oh Gawd :'l
I'm not one to really complain but I don't like this one bit. Lowering items like Dharok, Torags, Whips etc from millions down to 10-20 would just throw everything out of place. Think about it, Pking is inactive as it is. Imagine what it will be like after this update.... People might disagree, Good on them. This is my 2 cents.
If this does happen, which I hope doesn't, please make the number a little higher then 1k at least.
Quote from: Jake on January 13, 2012, 12:19:32 AM
Oh Gawd :'l
I'm not one to really complain but I don't like this one bit. Lowering items like Dharok, Torags, Whips etc from millions down to 10-20 would just throw everything out of place. Think about it, Pking is inactive as it is. Imagine what it will be like after this update.... People might disagree, Good on them. This is my 2 cents.
If this does happen, which I hope doesn't, please make the number a little higher then 1k at least.
We haven't set a price yet. We aren't even sure if we will do this yet. This is one of the scariest updates that will ever happen to WorldScape.
I kinda feel split on this. On one hand, we could fix the entire economy, yet on another hand, it could ruin PK'ing, as jake pointed out.
If there is something that is done, then it should be taken a different way. Let's say that:
Person A has 100 Whips.
Person B has 1000 Whips.
Person C has 10,000 Whips.
There should be a way that it's a 'Curb', in which:
Person A will keep 80 Whips (80%)
Person B will keep 600 Whips (60%)
Person C will keep 900 Whips (9%)
This is just my two cents IF this is done, it's one way to address this situation. These numbers are just estimates.
QuoteWe haven't set a price yet. We aren't even sure if we will do this yet. This is one of the scariest updates that will ever happen to WorldScape.
Exactly, This could make or break Worldscape. I don't like that fact that this could, even if it is the slightest chance, end Worldscape. That's why I'm against it.
Quote from: Mute on January 13, 2012, 04:10:47 AM
Quote from: Jake on January 13, 2012, 01:31:48 AM
Exactly, This could make or break Worldscape. I don't like that fact that this could, even if it is the slightest chance, end Worldscape. That's why I'm against it.
In all honesty, this could hardly make it worse.
I agree. There's a lot of people with bandos and stuff already anyway. I don't see too many people PK with dharoks.
Quote from: Kryptonite on January 13, 2012, 08:01:55 AM
Quote from: Mute on January 13, 2012, 04:10:47 AM
Quote from: Jake on January 13, 2012, 01:31:48 AM
Exactly, This could make or break Worldscape. I don't like that fact that this could, even if it is the slightest chance, end Worldscape. That's why I'm against it.
In all honesty, this could hardly make it worse.
I agree. There's a lot of people with bandos and stuff already anyway. I don't see too many people PK with dharoks.
Agreed wait a year there'll be SO much bandos and other barrows stuff!
Keep in mind, we don't need to do it this way. If you want we can always remove certain items if you guys prefer. Like say All barrows items down to 100, then all rune boots, furys, strength ammys, pots, berserker helms, barrows gloves, including some wannabe rares which were duped in the past, like Rune G, Cavaliers, stuff like that. If someone wants to make a list of those items and you guys would much rather have that we could do that too.
Quote from: Kevin on January 13, 2012, 04:45:17 PM
Keep in mind, we don't need to do it this way. If you want we can always remove certain items if you guys prefer. Like say All barrows items down to 100, then all rune boots, furys, strength ammys, pots, berserker helms, barrows gloves, including some wannabe rares which were duped in the past, like Rune G, Cavaliers, stuff like that. If someone wants to make a list of those items and you guys would much rather have that we could do that too.
I think I might like this better actually.
How would it ruin Pking? If anything it would make it better...
QuoteIn all honesty, this could hardly make it worse.
I love how you put Worldscape down but you're still here?
Jake I don't think he meant it that way.
Guys, it was just a miss-understanding. I read it the wrong way at first too, took me a second to realize what he meant. No need to get snarky. Let's get back on topic.
man dont do thet its shit! its a stupid idea i hate it -.-
i'm sirius man dont do thet!!!!!!
Quote from: Chaoslancex on January 11, 2012, 10:35:32 PM
Bronze Arrow Tips(39)
iron arrows tips(40)
steel arrow tips(41)
Mith Arrow Tips ( 42)
Addy arrow tips(43)
rune arrow tips(44)
Magic logs (1513)
Raw lobster ( 377)
Silver Bar( 2355)
Uncut Dragon stone(1631)
Uncut sapphire(1623)
Uncut Emerald(1621)
Uncut Onyx (6571)
Uncut Diamond (1617)
Uncut Ruby( 1619)
Iron Ore ( 440)
Coal Ore( 453)
Mith Ore ( 447)
addy Ore ( 449)
Rune Ore (451)
Feathers ( 314)
Arrow Shaft (52)
Eye of Newt( 221)
Vial of Water( 227)
Clean avantoe ( 261)
Clean torstol (269)
clean lantadyme (2481)
clean snapdragon (3000)
Clean snake weed( 1526)
Clean rogue's purse (1534)
Unf cadantine potion (107)
Unf Toadflax potion (3002)
Unf rannar potion (99)
Unf Dwarf Weed Potion (109)
Vial (229)
Unf Avantoe potion (103)
Void Knight Gloves (8842)
Void Knight Top (8839)
Void Knight robe (8840)
Void Mage helm (11663)
void seal( 8 ) ( 11666)
Void ranger helm (11664)
Void melee helm (11665)
Void Knight Mace (8841)
Fire Cape ( 6570)
Mint Cake (9475)
Onyx Necklace (6577)
Teak Planks ( 8780)
Boxing Gloves( 7673)
Black Boater (7327)
Gloves (7462)
ham hood (4302)
ham boots ( 4310)
ham cape (4304)
Sled ( 4084)
cooked Shark (385)
Cooked Manta ray (391)
Rune Shard (6466)
A Few More to come.
Oscar, are these the items along with the item Id's in brackets, the items not to be reset?
Well, in my perspective point of view, this is definitely one hard decision to make for Worldscape and i propose this waits for at least lets say a month, before anything happens so that most people can be aware of this and that people are sure what they want.
Quote from: toxicrick on January 14, 2012, 09:33:02 AM
man dont do thet its shit! its a stupid idea i hate it -.-
i'm sirius man dont do thet!!!!!!
For real dude..
Quote from: Kevin on January 11, 2012, 08:28:06 PM
If you vote no, please explain why you voted no.[/center]
No one's gonna care about what you have to say if you just come on to this topic raging with no explanation.
i want to keep my stuff i work like 2 or 3 years for it and dont i lose it in 10 seconds :'(
maybe you fix the economy but destroy the pking.
how many tockens can we have i have 10k so i need to know
Quote from: duckey on January 14, 2012, 01:09:27 PM
how many tockens can we have i have 10k so i need to know
Ok guys did none of you read the part where you post ID's of items you don't want deleted? And tokens have already been posted so you don't need to worry about that.
they should destroy either everything or nothing, because its the same if u work hours collecting rares or if u work hours getting skilling items... i know its hard to understand to newbies who dont have rares or high amounts of any items... so just leave the game as it is, we have already lost enough old players
i voted no becouse lots off my freinds will quit if it goes to yes >:(
Well, the "No" vote got rolled back down to 5 because someone found it necessary to log onto multiple accounts and vote no on all of them.
It makes it completely obvious when the No goes skyrocketing up...
I know who did it as-well.
Doing that was immature and not necessary. Instead of trying to persuade others they took it upon their own hands to cheat the vote. I am disappointing.
Quote from: rare4life on January 14, 2012, 02:25:23 PM
they should destroy either everything or nothing, because its the same if u work hours collecting rares or if u work hours getting skilling items... i know its hard to understand to newbies who dont have rares or high amounts of any items... so just leave the game as it is, we have already lost enough old players
You don't understand do you? We aren't removing every single item. Any item that is above a certain amount will be lowered to a set amount to help stimulate the economy in the game.
kevin, u are the one that didnt understand me what i meant... its like if u work months for example mining pure essence, when u finally reach 100k, then u start mining coal, and so on... when u got all 100k, took u years... then some ******* says "hey, lets all reset those into 10" i did same with my rares, if i got loads of some, i maybe bought them in smaller loads or so with real rares, just to collect. -- and thats fucked up that u, who wants this to happen, rolls "no" back when it was winning... i bet ppl who voted yes did the exact same thing, which is vote on multiple accs!
Quote from: rare4life on January 14, 2012, 03:19:45 PM
kevin, u are the one that didnt understand me what i meant... its like if u work months for example mining pure essence, when u finally reach 100k, then u start mining coal, and so on... when u got all 100k, took u years... then some ******* says "hey, lets all reset those into 10" i did same with my rares, if i got loads of some, i maybe bought them in smaller loads or so with real rares, just to collect. -- and thats fucked up that u, who wants this to happen, rolls "no" back when it was winning... i bet ppl who voted yes did the exact same thing, which is vote on multiple accs!
Take a chill pill. Do you read anything? I mean really. He clearly said 'POST ANY ITEMS THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO BE ROLLED BACK' on the topic. Oscar already mentioned all the ores. damn dude...
why is my vote deleted? i voted for i dont care.
Quote from: Wild on January 14, 2012, 03:26:18 PM
why is my vote deleted? i voted for i dont care.
People were making new accounts to vote for 'no'.
i dont collect ores, i collect rares, the items u call "duped rares" like cavaliers, rune g, etc... all up to darts and knives and basicly anything, c bows, barrows, tokz shields, anything i can get... took me lots of time to get, and cost a lot of rares... so i cant post it all here it wont do anything good... i kinda wish i did collect ores, would have been much more useful and wouldnt need to quit... i bet u dont understand this reply either so whats the point of posting these...
Quote from: rare4life on January 14, 2012, 03:32:11 PM
i dont collect ores, i collect rares, the items u call "duped rares" like cavaliers, rune g, etc... all up to darts and knives and basicly anything, c bows, barrows, tokz shields, anything i can get... took me lots of time to get, and cost a lot of rares... so i cant post it all here it wont do anything good... i kinda wish i did collect ores, would have been much more useful and wouldnt need to quit... i bet u dont understand this reply either so whats the point of posting these...
Those items were duped. Oscar said someone just gave him 100k cavs along with like 10k rune g sets.
On my personal accounts I have literally thousands of obby shields along with barrows items and barrows gloves. I've worked for them, but it's not like I worked "Hard" for them. These items were massively duped in the past. We aren't even sure what number we are going to lower them to. Or even when we will be doing this. If there are items you feel that don't need to be set back post it!
no items need to be set back
Quote from: Kryptonite on January 14, 2012, 03:29:40 PM
Quote from: Wild on January 14, 2012, 03:26:18 PM
why is my vote deleted? i voted for i dont care.
People were making new accounts to vote for 'no'.
It says i voted for no now....
You can change your own vote now.
LOL NICE RESET OF VOTES ON NO (:
Quote from: Like a Bawz on January 14, 2012, 04:56:52 PM
LOL NICE RESET OF VOTES ON NO (:
Because multiple people are logging on multiple accounts, even creating new ones just to vote no. Which isn't helping the decision at all.
I'm obviously against this. None of you who are voting yes have the knowledge or even a slight experience what it takes to for, us, the collectors or even players with items that have mass number in bulks to tell us that this roll back is good for the "Economy". First, those items that were voted to be roll back are pointless. They have been that kind of number in the server for more than four or five years and some were even more massive than now, but I don't see how this can take affect on worldscape by acting upon it now. Yeah, you can post whatever item you like to not be able to be roll back but it's the fact that; this idea itself is dumbfounding... I mean why bother ?
Second, If half of you guys recall when the burying of ourg bones became the most massive duping ways for shields and weapons, there was a roll back in worldscape. Every weapon or shield was rolled back to a certain number... And what happen ? Economy died, players quit, and blitz was launched. But before that Jeremy did something really stupid and made an event with the cyan crystal for the economy to come back up, granting a player to have an item spawn per crystal and guess what ? Those players spawned the same item that were roll back in the same amount of number that they lose.
Third, the only items that truly are in massive numbers are pking gear; dharok, pumpkins, cho-ice, dds, whips, rune boots, and etc. Old classic pking gear, the rest are pointless stupid rares that is better to be in kept in those numbers rather than 100 or 1k. As-we-all-know pking is dead, hands down, players donate real money for pking gear but doesn't bother to risk or even wear them in the wildy. This is the problem... If those items ^^ gets rolled back say 100 or 1k and some how players started pking again and one of those pkers runs out of pking gear, the cycle of pking items begins. That player would most likely ask his friends to lend him some, and those friends that he ask runs out as well now we have a situation(Mike's voice) :))... Yes, items will be circulated but what kind of item would you trade for a 50 set of old classic pking gear knowing that the scarcity of those item have increase in the "Economy". It's like this; what item would you trade for a donors pking gear knowing that there's real money involve ? I'm sure some debate or arguement will happen when this happens, we all know that. But ! That's not the real question... What item would you trade for an old pking knowing that there's NO real money involve ?
If this happens worldscape will lose a lot of players. Players wanted blitz to be launched and what happened after that ? Majority of those people either quit or is banned because they regretted it. I'm hanging around whether it happens or not. I just don't want worldscape's "Economy" experience another "Drought".
P.S: Some of the players in this topic DOES not type like this in-game. Lol, it makes me laugh.
this is pathetic worldscape has changed to much over the years its now just gunna be like stupid rs thats why they made rsps to get away from rs not to make another server like rs im strongly agianst this. if this happens i will be quitting.
maybe is it better to make a list of people that guit when this happened.
Quote from: Xx Wildy Xx on January 15, 2012, 07:25:37 AM
this is pathetic worldscape has changed to much over the years its now just gunna be like stupid rs thats why they made rsps to get away from rs not to make another server like rs im strongly agianst this. if this happens i will be quitting.
You dont even know how worldscape was at the beginning.
Quote from: Wild on January 15, 2012, 11:57:26 AM
Quote from: Xx Wildy Xx on January 15, 2012, 07:25:37 AM
this is pathetic worldscape has changed to much over the years its now just gunna be like stupid rs thats why they made rsps to get away from rs not to make another server like rs im strongly agianst this. if this happens i will be quitting.
You dont even know how worldscape was at the beginning.
Well yeah i've been here since the game started but i dun really remember how it started, all what i remember was people all over worldscape over 30 players online 24/7, people being nice, dz being kind of rude to the people in the wildy and killing them all, well yeah that's what i remember, plus i say that the economical change should happen, dharoks should be reduced to like 2-5k per player, am pretty sure that's what ryan said so don't tell me that they already said that before, what am saying that the economy wasn't very good in the past as much as i remember, people had massive pk-ing gear, actually from my point of view, only pk-ing gear should be reduced, well yeah am with fixing the economy as it's going to fix the game, people shouldn't quit, they should just cheer up and start over with just the pk-ing gear, i am sure ryan will give out free pk-ing gear like in a drop party just like the crystal thing jeremy did, thats it why you still looking at the post, just look away and read something else.
Sincerly
Mazen
Instead of complaining that there is no players all the time, why don't you guys advertise? The staff does a hell of a lot. I know I do. You guys can help by advertising the server, on your Skype, Msn, Facebook, YouTube, Forum signatures on other sites, anything imaginable you can do to advertise WorldScape.
Quote from: lollol on January 15, 2012, 02:53:49 PM
Quote from: Wild on January 15, 2012, 11:57:26 AM
Quote from: Xx Wildy Xx on January 15, 2012, 07:25:37 AM
this is pathetic worldscape has changed to much over the years its now just gunna be like stupid rs thats why they made rsps to get away from rs not to make another server like rs im strongly agianst this. if this happens i will be quitting.
You dont even know how worldscape was at the beginning.
Well yeah i've been here since the game started but i dun really remember how it started, all what i remember was people all over worldscape over 30 players online 24/7, people being nice, dz being kind of rude to the people in the wildy and killing them all, well yeah that's what i remember, plus i say that the economical change should happen, dharoks should be reduced to like 2-5k per player, am pretty sure that's what ryan said so don't tell me that they already said that before, what am saying that the economy wasn't very good in the past as much as i remember, people had massive pk-ing gear, actually from my point of view, only pk-ing gear should be reduced, well yeah am with fixing the economy as it's going to fix the game, people shouldn't quit, they should just cheer up and start over with just the pk-ing gear, i am sure ryan will give out free pk-ing gear like in a drop party just like the crystal thing jeremy did, thats it why you still looking at the post, just look away and read something else.
Sincerly
Mazen
Just want to point out if you were here from the beggining you would know dz did not exist back then i was not even a pker i was a noob and i was part of this clan ran by Goku witch was the big thing back then it was called something taco, and then moved to i poon i's clan and then a few months or a year later dz was born with the help of Naruto12 haha but anyhow.
anyhow about the topic at hand i'm for it..but not voting haha.. letting the people decide on another hand i would actually like it to be reset all items and start fresh but i guess a rollback on items is ok.
Quote from: Chaoslancex on January 15, 2012, 11:04:48 PM
Quote from: lollol on January 15, 2012, 02:53:49 PM
Quote from: Wild on January 15, 2012, 11:57:26 AM
Quote from: Xx Wildy Xx on January 15, 2012, 07:25:37 AM
this is pathetic worldscape has changed to much over the years its now just gunna be like stupid rs thats why they made rsps to get away from rs not to make another server like rs im strongly agianst this. if this happens i will be quitting.
You dont even know how worldscape was at the beginning.
Well yeah i've been here since the game started but i dun really remember how it started, all what i remember was people all over worldscape over 30 players online 24/7, people being nice, dz being kind of rude to the people in the wildy and killing them all, well yeah that's what i remember, plus i say that the economical change should happen, dharoks should be reduced to like 2-5k per player, am pretty sure that's what ryan said so don't tell me that they already said that before, what am saying that the economy wasn't very good in the past as much as i remember, people had massive pk-ing gear, actually from my point of view, only pk-ing gear should be reduced, well yeah am with fixing the economy as it's going to fix the game, people shouldn't quit, they should just cheer up and start over with just the pk-ing gear, i am sure ryan will give out free pk-ing gear like in a drop party just like the crystal thing jeremy did, thats it why you still looking at the post, just look away and read something else.
Sincerly
Mazen
Just want to point out if you were here from the beggining you would know dz did not exist back then i was not even a pker i was a noob and i was part of this clan ran by Goku witch was the big thing back then it was called something taco, and then moved to i poon i's clan and then a few months or a year later dz was born with the help of Naruto12 haha but anyhow.
anyhow about the topic at hand i'm for it..but not voting haha.. letting the people decide on another hand i would actually like it to be reset all items and start fresh but i guess a rollback on items is ok.
Well i didn't know that, thx for the info xD
On Topic:i kind of agree with u oscar, i would be veery okay if there is a fresh start in everything, skills and everything, am actually a glitched acc and u all know that, so i didnt spend that much time lvling up, from my opinion we should get a fresh start like oscar said, it's fair for everyone.
Okay I hope no one will complain about this how about all phats cleared out of all banks and then they become rare! I love wearing phats but since there is soooo many of them in game look like a noob wearing one. So Should phats be reset? You guys decide!
Agreements?
Quote from: D E A T H on January 16, 2012, 05:37:12 PM
Okay I hope no one will complain about this how about all phats cleared out of all banks and then they become rare! I love wearing phats but since there is soooo many of them in game look like a noob wearing one. So Should phats be reset? You guys decide!
Agreements?
They would be anyway if this update happened. And plus people could just go back to ::phat and get more. That's kind of a separate suggestion anyway.
Quote from: Mute on January 16, 2012, 06:01:56 PM
26-21...
The "No" has shot up, so I would request an IP check again please. >.<
What do you mean 26-21?
Quote from: Kryptonite on January 16, 2012, 06:15:52 PM
Quote from: Mute on January 16, 2012, 06:01:56 PM
26-21...
The "No" has shot up, so I would request an IP check again please. >.<
What do you mean 26-21?
Yes - 26 Votes
No - 21 Votes
The votes are completely inaccurate considering people have been multi-logging to vote either yes or no.
Quote from: Kryptonite on January 16, 2012, 05:44:49 PM
They would be anyway if this update happened. And plus people could just go back to ::phat and get more. That's kind of a separate suggestion anyway.
Then this will just be removed.
Quote from: Like a Bawz on January 11, 2012, 09:23:45 PM
I agree with jake on the whole item deleting worldscape dieing theory. most of the players have gotten their items for a reason, and to be truthful, on a daily basis of good pking, i'd go through 2k dh sets like a soda. i voted no because its nice to have plently of items to spare, you can help new players with them, give them to friends if they're out of something, and just mess around with em. dropping them at random times is hilarous. kids will be like, wtf? how'd that happen? while you're just sitting their laughing your ass off. :D but yes, i like my items, and ive kept them for a reason.
Totally agree :)
when you remove phat remove northpole there can you get barrow stuff 2
i'm still hate it ant wen u remove the stuff it wil help me ant a lot of other ppl to quit!
so wen u do the update i gonne quit ant a lot more ppl!
so i vote for a big fat no!
No, I don't see how this would "fix" the economy in the slightest.
Bring back the old pking, blitz > dds. My suggestion.
Quote from: pkmarien on January 19, 2012, 10:24:19 AM
Quote from: Like a Bawz on January 11, 2012, 09:23:45 PM
I agree with jake on the whole item deleting worldscape dieing theory. most of the players have gotten their items for a reason, and to be truthful, on a daily basis of good pking, i'd go through 2k dh sets like a soda. i voted no because its nice to have plently of items to spare, you can help new players with them, give them to friends if they're out of something, and just mess around with em. dropping them at random times is hilarous. kids will be like, wtf? how'd that happen? while you're just sitting their laughing your ass off. :D but yes, i like my items, and ive kept them for a reason.
Totally agree :)
Yep same totally!!
i think it'd be fine, just have some items that are unaffected, like rares. the raw shark number is too low. i have 10k that i fished legit, and i don't want that reduced to 300. this needs to be really well thought through on how much for each item if you're going to do it.
Quote from: Kevin on January 11, 2012, 08:28:06 PM
In the past few days some of the members of WorldScape has been proposing this idea, and as they asked I am making a poll on what exactly we will do.
We will not be removing every single item in WorldScape, we will be setting them back. For instance in the past there was dupes on WorldScape, which is pretty obvious. We are going to be setting the stacks of those items in each players bank down to a lower number(Not sure what number yet, you guys can debate below on which number). For example. Say I have 1,000,000 Dharok's Helm. Now obviously that is way too many for 1 person to have. So we will be setting that stack of 1,000,000 Helmets down to say 2,000. We will be doing this to every single item in the game, except a few. That is where you guys come in.
Here is a small list of items I came up with already:
Shark(385)
Pure Essence(7936)
Raw Shark(383)
Those are example items we are not going to roll-back. Now, this is where you guys come in again. We need it to be in that format "ItemName(ItemID)" in order for us to know which item we need to not roll back. If we don't agree with it, we won't do it. Now we don't need items like Bandos, Armadyl, ect. because nobody should have more then say 10-20 of those. So the roll-back will not effect those items. We are mainly looking at Wood, Ores, Raw fish, Cooked fish, tokens, ect. If you guys can get those and post them below I will add them to the list of items to not roll-back.
If you vote yes, please explain why you voted yes.
If you vote no, please explain why you voted no.
Quote from: Chaoslancex on January 11, 2012, 10:35:32 PM
Bronze Arrow Tips(39)
iron arrows tips(40)
steel arrow tips(41)
Mith Arrow Tips ( 42)
Addy arrow tips(43)
rune arrow tips(44)
Magic logs (1513)
Raw lobster ( 377)
Silver Bar( 2355)
Uncut Dragon stone(1631)
Uncut sapphire(1623)
Uncut Emerald(1621)
Uncut Onyx (6571)
Uncut Diamond (1617)
Uncut Ruby( 1619)
Iron Ore ( 440)
Coal Ore( 453)
Mith Ore ( 447)
addy Ore ( 449)
Rune Ore (451)
Feathers ( 314)
Arrow Shaft (52)
Eye of Newt( 221)
Vial of Water( 227)
Clean avantoe ( 261)
Clean torstol (269)
clean lantadyme (2481)
clean snapdragon (3000)
Clean snake weed( 1526)
Clean rogue's purse (1534)
Unf cadantine potion (107)
Unf Toadflax potion (3002)
Unf rannar potion (99)
Unf Dwarf Weed Potion (109)
Vial (229)
Unf Avantoe potion (103)
Void Knight Gloves (8842)
Void Knight Top (8839)
Void Knight robe (8840)
Void Mage helm (11663)
void seal(8) ( 11666)
Void ranger helm (11664)
Void melee helm (11665)
Void Knight Mace (8841)
Fire Cape ( 6570)
Mint Cake (9475)
Onyx Necklace (6577)
Teak Planks ( 8780)
Boxing Gloves( 7673)
Black Boater (7327)
Gloves (7462)
ham hood (4302)
ham boots ( 4310)
ham cape (4304)
Sled ( 4084)
cooked Shark (385)
Cooked Manta ray (391)
Rune Shard (6466)
A Few More to come.
It seems nobody is reading Kevin's Post -.- really he said make a list of the items that should
NOT be reduced or "rollback" as you can see i made a list and some items, and some should actually not be in that list cause they don't really need to be on my list anyhow to lazy to fix it, but most the the items that you post won't be rollback...
Quote from: Chaoslancex on January 23, 2012, 05:32:47 PM
It seems nobody is reading Kevin's Post -.- really he said make a list of the items that should NOT be reduced or "rollback" as you can see i made a list and some items should actually not be in that list cause they don't really need to be on my list anyhow to lazy to fix it, but most the the items that you post won't be rollback...
Thank you...
Tockens can be 10k
Gah! I misunderstood at a first read. Didn't notice the number you put after the item was the ID. That's my bad. I honestly think the people are complaining because they want a lot of items, but I think we've gotten to the point where money and many items have no worth. I've been on and off for two years and a lot of the past rares are no longer rare due to mass duping. It will really fix the inflation I think, and everyone jumps to no because it will make it more challenging. I'm all for yes here, and I think Kevin chose some really good items on things that shouldn't be reduced.
I think that Mithril seeds(299) shouldn't be rolled back.. It may seem duped when someone has 30k of them but that can be dug easily.
I personally love this idea. I know many disagree with it and it will be risky to do this but this will either make or break world scape. I would be terribly sorry to see all of the old players quit but I'm going to be straight up. The economy in this game sucks the only things that are currency in this game are donor items, sharks and pure essence. I think money should play a role and quite frankly having thousands and thousands of dharocks going down doesn't effect me at all. I would like it if they were actually more rare because then pking would actually have a purpose instead of just going and dying and the person who won gaining nothing. I know all of the old school players say they took their dear sweet time to get those items but there is just to much of it. Thanks for the consideration ;D.
Regards, Drakedriller.
Soooo, are we getting a definite answer on what's happening? Maybe we should redo a poll, since ignorant players just made many accounts and voted no.
Just sayin'.
Well even if we do have another poll people will still be "Ignorant".
Quote from: Jake on April 17, 2012, 07:48:58 PM
Well even if we do have another poll people will still be "Ignorant".
True, but we were talking about a way to vote without rigging it. One vote a person. I still haven't personally found a way to do that though.
That's what this one was set to. Unfortunetly it doesn't have a 1 Vote per Ip option so people can make fake accounts and vote.
Quote from: Jake on April 17, 2012, 07:54:16 PM
That's what this one was set to. Unfortunetly it doesn't have a 1 Vote per Ip option so people can make fake accounts and vote.
That's what happened. Someone voted no like 10 times. Which is why I'm wondering of the result. (Hopefully redo or yes, we really need this. Don't care what others say I fully support it)
as you can see, worldscape's population has taken a nosedive since the last time i was officially playing... i just got on and 9 players. most of them new, which is good. great that theres new players, oh wait. we get new ones and lose the old. we need this
by all these people who wont yes i think i should vote yes but i voted no :(
I'm voting Yes because right now, Worldscape doesn't have an Economy. It's not that good of a sight. I doubt it will make anything worse because there will still be a reasonable amount of these items.
Quote from: fatdude on April 29, 2012, 07:18:31 AM
by all these people who wont yes i think i should vote yes but i voted no :(
Oh, so now you want it to be here? Too bad you fucked everyone over by making 10 accounts and voting no.. Sigh..
Quote from: Recoil on April 29, 2012, 12:08:41 PM
Quote from: fatdude on April 29, 2012, 07:18:31 AM
by all these people who wont yes i think i should vote yes but i voted no :(
Oh, so now you want it to be here? Too bad you fucked everyone over by making 10 accounts and voting no.. Sigh..
worldscapes only hope at an economy fix is if the admin finally think through what will happen if the game continues to have a ruined economy and fix it.
if you fix the economy there will be another problem
maybe you destroy the pking?
or the people that pay real cash for it being angry
Quote from: gomes97 on April 29, 2012, 02:01:43 PM
if you fix the economy there will be another problem
maybe you destroy the pking?
or the people that pay real cash for it being angry
the economy fix will not delete donor items.
nate then i will be still unfair for the people without donor items,
and now there are 20 people online if you guys dont do this,
there will be more
much people will quit and then you are alone online or aren't online.
why do people fight the idea of fixing the game? and why do i fight so hard to fix it? i don't know why i make an effort at this if all people want is to have a crappy game.
Quote from: gomes97 on April 29, 2012, 02:01:43 PM
if you fix the economy there will be another problem
maybe you destroy the pking?
or the people that pay real cash for it being angry
You're making absolutely no sense. The economy fix won't affect PKing. Besides, PKing is dead right now anyways.
recoil if you guys are online it isn't
and how you know if you dont play this game anymore.
Quote from: gomes97 on April 29, 2012, 02:17:41 PM
recoil if you guys are online it isn't
and how you know if you dont play this game anymore.
Lol? Don't tell me I'm ignorant to the situation. I stopped playing like 2 days ago. It's not like while I was gone things have changed. I know that because my brother Jerry West plays everyday, and I watch him play. It's still boring as hell because of the items.
Recoil looks like you will be back on ws the votes are 40 40
Quote from: fatdude on April 29, 2012, 04:20:40 PM
Recoil looks like you will be back on ws the votes are 40 40
that poll is invalid. people already screwed with it.
Still going to cross my fingers
http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/F7CCJP9 (http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/F7CCJP9) vote here
Ryan told me, he wanted to launch a second world, with the same account's, only everyone's lvl 1, like a fresh start. How about that?
no
dude if have to start from lvl 1 id quit because all the time i put into this game would be gone
Quote from: darkchamp101 on May 10, 2012, 04:01:10 PM
dude if have to start from lvl 1 id quit because all the time i put into this game would be gone
You don't say? That's not what this is though.
I voted yes because there are to many items in WorldScape and we need to bring the number of items down and i agree with Kevin.