Oh, RuneScape, how I used to have much love for you. Things have changed in that area and I can confidently say it's Jagex's fault. Things have changed for the worse about RuneScape, and those wanting to disagree, let me explain where I've come from with it.
I played RuneScape when I was first 8 years old. 8 years ago. 317 graphics, no Dungeon-eering or anything. My cousin showed me it and I remember (like many others) being so highly addicted that I wouldn't tear my eyes off the screen (didn't help that it was summer, and I had an enormous amount of free time). I remember we would have fire raids with friends. We would fill an entire city (mostly Varrock) with fires, it was insane. People would go in wildy and risk it all, and mostly get tricked by lurers or ice barragers.
I can safely say the old RuneScape took more skill. No double-XP weekends, meaning if you had a skillcape: You were an all out monster and HIGHLY respected. There was nothing like being the only person in a f*cking world in a skillcape, every time you passed someone would follow you and be amazed like a little kid looking up to a professional athlete. The memories of skilling with friends is unforgettable, yet pisses me off because it reminds me to the day that they would change the graphics to a very high extent. Graphics just aren't an element. They changed the whole style. I remember old raids in Falador all the time about it. Because with this update not only the graphics were changed, but PKing was stripped away because you could "hack someone easier" by going onto their account and killing them. Stupid.
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If you think that's something there was much worse, I wish I had recorded times that I was there.
I was really disappointed in Jagex. They changed shit around for the new people, not the older members that should've been rewarded for staying with them. So I played WorldScape to remind myself of the older grahpics and memories, but I soon realized it could never amount up to it. It wasn't JUST the graphics. It was the whole game. Ask any old fart and they'll tell you that old and new RS are the same, but anyone with any kind of experience with technology knows it's not. It's not even close.
I can personally guarantee that my hate for Jagex is more than anything.
Amen.
RS is full of gold farmers now. I just like doing construction cause it's fun. :)
If someone plays a game because of the graphics, I suggest they go outside.
I really did like old RuneScape a lot more. I wish it would be brought back. But it is the same as WorldScape.
I really did like old WorldScape a lot more, because of the pking. I wish it was brought back.
my brother in law (hes like 23 or something) pks and sells items for money. hes made like over $2000 off runescape gold. i think hes gotten also over 2b cash in total (not at one point in time)
I am proud, to have taken place in some of those riots:
And to think, if Jagex actually Listened to people, where Runescape would actually be:
I took place at a few of these riots myself.
The truth is RuneScape will never be the way it used to be. I was just talking to Ryan about making a complete re-make of RuneScape back in the day.
Quote from: Kevin on March 25, 2012, 05:20:27 PM
I took place at a few of these riots myself.
The truth is RuneScape will never be the way it used to be. I was just talking to Ryan about making a complete re-make of RuneScape back in the day.
A remake of RS would be cool, but what I'm trying to get at here is that something like that would never be the same as old RS, because it's also all the old friends I miss that quit because of the new updates. It's the old experience that you just can't remake, which is truly sad.
Quote from: ratman3 on March 25, 2012, 04:49:19 PM
I am proud, to have taken place in some of those riots:
And to think, if Jagex actually Listened to people, where Runescape would actually be:
I tend to think the same, but not everyone agrees.
Quote from: nate on March 25, 2012, 04:37:50 PM
my brother in law (hes like 23 or something) pks and sells items for money. hes made like over $2000 off runescape gold. i think hes gotten also over 2b cash in total (not at one point in time)
Umm.. Okay? Lol
Quote from: Skyro on March 25, 2012, 04:37:19 PM
I really did like old RuneScape a lot more. I wish it would be brought back. But it is the same as WorldScape.
I really did like old WorldScape a lot more, because of the pking. I wish it was brought back.
Whilst I agree, that subject has been beaten to a bloody pulp and I can guarantee it (sadly) will not come back.
People always say that newer WS or RS versions are more "stable" (for WS back to the subject of old PKing), but to be quite honest I couldn't care less. I want the same old experiences and memories to still be here.
Quote from: Kevin on March 25, 2012, 05:20:27 PM
I took place at a few of these riots myself.
The truth is RuneScape will never be the way it used to be. I was just talking to Ryan about making a complete re-make of RuneScape back in the day.
honestly, if you did that i might play that more that ws ;D ;D ;D
RS now is just too complicated for me. I also hate the fact the players have changed. Years ago I'd create an account and get 10 people that day I would talk to and PK and shit together. I have started playing again and haven't added a single person. The only person who sent me a PM was 'hgfidifbd' wanting to sell me gold, $0.90 per 1M. Meh, 13 year old nerds suck donkey d*ck.
Quote from: I Merk on March 25, 2012, 05:50:16 PM
RS now is just too complicated for me. I also hate the fact the players have changed. Years ago I'd create an account and get 10 people that day I would talk to and PK and shit together. I have started playing again and haven't added a single person. The only person who sent me a PM was 'hgfidifbd' wanting to sell me gold, $0.90 per 1M. Meh, 13 year old nerds suck donkey d*ck.
This too. The changes to the game have brought little immature kids. Something they can't reverse now.
Quote from: Kevin on March 25, 2012, 05:20:27 PM
I took place at a few of these riots myself.
The truth is RuneScape will never be the way it used to be. I was just talking to Ryan about making a complete remake of RuneScape back in the day.
Good god that would be more time consuming than anything I could ever imagine. I know for a fact that there have been plenty of people that have attempted this and have failed miserably. However, I have no doubt that if anybody could do this it would be you, Ry, and the rest of the AllGoFree team. Obviously this team has the skill level, patience and discipline to pull this off, but I'm sure nobody here wants you to forget about Worldscape while working on a new project.
i botted lol. but it was so i could catch up to my brother in levels to pk with him. tbh i loved old runescape training (before all the botters), (although i hated botters) because it actually showed hard work. (im not a hypocrite for botting, i just to fed up with other botters.
I remember my first days in the memberworld. i took all my money to discover the whole members world, I got poisoned and lost my bank.
In my opinion Runescape 2008-2010 was the best. Because it was well made and it was just and average place. When the 2011-2012 updates came, it ruined the game in my opinion.
My mate and his mates re-made Runescape from 2006. I'm not advertising but it's quite amazing what they are doing.
If you're referring to all the raggers, botters, pjers, ratters, hackers, scammers, lurers, rushers, flamers, trolls then that's not really Jagex's foult is it? People tend to blame the game, but it's really the community that's bad. Runescape have been told to have the WORST community for a MMORPG, I'm sure that's true. It's not Jagex's foult that people PJ. It's a part of the game. Yes, the game has a few flaws, but in reality, it's really the community that has changed for the bad. I've also read countless of stories of how "the game would be SO exciting when you had nothing.. blah blah blah". Everybody misses their childhood, that's what that really is about. Being a noob! When you've explored everything, and done everything, it's just not that fun. If the game started to sell gold, give out free bots and promote PJing, that would be another thing, but that's not how it is. Runescape is Runescape, it has changed, get over it.
Tbh, there is already a 2006 version of Rs. I'm just not going to post the link, but there are already 100'000 people playing it, even tho it's just in a bèta version. I've heard. :)
Was good for the 7 years i played it, totally shitty money hungry fail crap crap shit these days. </3
Quote from: Grievous on March 26, 2012, 03:29:03 PM
If you're referring to all the raggers, botters, pjers, ratters, hackers, scammers, lurers, rushers, flamers, trolls then that's not really Jagex's foult is it? People tend to blame the game, but it's really the community that's bad. Runescape have been told to have the WORST community for a MMORPG, I'm sure that's true. It's not Jagex's foult that people PJ. It's a part of the game. Yes, the game has a few flaws, but in reality, it's really the community that has changed for the bad. I've also read countless of stories of how "the game would be SO exciting when you had nothing.. blah blah blah". Everybody misses their childhood, that's what that really is about. Being a noob! When you've explored everything, and done everything, it's just not that fun. If the game started to sell gold, give out free bots and promote PJing, that would be another thing, but that's not how it is. Runescape is Runescape, it has changed, get over it.
Try reading my post. I never once mention the community as being their fault.
Only good time i remember on worldscape, was me getting my friend 10m from camping at green dragons all through the night, getting 5k dragon bones + dragon hide :). I may not be that experienced with runescape, but i do know that the more you play it, you'll realize that you wasted time of good laughs and chugs along the path..
Quote from: freak m4n on March 26, 2012, 04:09:19 PM
Tbh, there is already a 2006 version of Rs. I'm just not going to post the link, but there are already 100'000 people playing it, even tho it's just in a bèta version. I've heard. :)
Thats it.
Quote from: Grievous on March 26, 2012, 03:29:03 PM
If you're referring to all the raggers, botters, pjers, ratters, hackers, scammers, lurers, rushers, flamers, trolls then that's not really Jagex's foult is it? People tend to blame the game, but it's really the community that's bad. Runescape have been told to have the WORST community for a MMORPG, I'm sure that's true. It's not Jagex's foult that people PJ. It's a part of the game. Yes, the game has a few flaws, but in reality, it's really the community that has changed for the bad.
I completely agree with this. Obviously Jagex has come up with some pretty stupid updates but as far as pking goes, the awfulness of the community has had a much more negative impact on the game than anything Jagex has done.
Although adding new things for players to use to be annoying like Ganodermic, Polypore Staff, Korasi Sword, Turmoil, Pack Yak etc. certainly doesn't help lol
Does anyone notice the guy trying to sell D legs for 10m? lol
Quote from: Recoil on March 26, 2012, 05:08:45 PM
Quote from: Grievous on March 26, 2012, 03:29:03 PM
If you're referring to all the raggers, botters, pjers, ratters, hackers, scammers, lurers, rushers, flamers, trolls then that's not really Jagex's foult is it? People tend to blame the game, but it's really the community that's bad. Runescape have been told to have the WORST community for a MMORPG, I'm sure that's true. It's not Jagex's foult that people PJ. It's a part of the game. Yes, the game has a few flaws, but in reality, it's really the community that has changed for the bad. I've also read countless of stories of how "the game would be SO exciting when you had nothing.. blah blah blah". Everybody misses their childhood, that's what that really is about. Being a noob! When you've explored everything, and done everything, it's just not that fun. If the game started to sell gold, give out free bots and promote PJing, that would be another thing, but that's not how it is. Runescape is Runescape, it has changed, get over it.
Try reading my post. I never once mention the community as being their fault.
Yeah, I read it, and to me it sounds like you just miss your childhood. You're talking about the "old days", but if you've played RS recently, you'd know that the game really isn't that bad. It's the community that's bad. It's like this; Is MW2 bad because you can noob-tube, OMA, Danger close? The game is alright, but it's the community that has chosen that setup, not the game. Meh, bad example, but you get my point?
Quote from: Grievous on March 27, 2012, 03:49:09 AM
Yeah, I read it, and to me it sounds like you just miss your childhood. You're talking about the "old days", but if you've played RS recently, you'd know that the game really isn't that bad. It's the community that's bad. It's like this; Is MW2 bad because you can noob-tube, OMA, Danger close? The game is alright, but it's the community that has chosen that setup, not the game. Meh, bad example, but you get my point?
I get your point, but I'm saying I really don't like the game anymore. The community is just another small downfall. It's not that I Miss my Childhood it's that I miss the game.. Idk if you've played it in earlier days, but if you haven't I understand your confusion on why I don't like it anymore.
It's not like I tried playing it, X-ed it out and never played again. I have played it (
tried to, almost unwillingly) play for a long long time to give Jagex a second chance, because I once loved them so much. We've obviously been set up in different situations and that's ok, I know it's hard to see each other's points.
Say your favorite game is CoD for example (using that because you mentioned MW2, you can really insert anything for CoD). Wouldn't you be pissed if you loved it the way it is and they COMPLETELY changed it around? I sure as hell Am.
That would be like changing Call of Duty to Battlefield. More "advanced" graphics, but so many kids would rage.
Quote from: Kryptonite on March 27, 2012, 08:22:17 PM
That would be like changing Call of Duty to Battlefield. More "advanced" graphics, but so many kids would rage.
Bout time you got online.... >:(
Ontopic: Yes that is a perfect analogy.
Quote from: Mia on March 27, 2012, 02:51:47 AM
Does anyone notice the guy trying to sell D legs for 10m? lol
Times have changed, bud.
ya, back then i remember when santa was down to about 10m.
one time, i as mining and a botter died to those rock golems they used to have for random events. he had a santa on and i picked it up. i was a noob when this happened, and i sold it back for 10k..... so mad. ;D
Quote from: nate on March 27, 2012, 10:14:52 PM
ya, back then i remember when santa was down to about 10m.
one time, i as mining and a botter died to those rock golems they used to have for random events. he had a santa on and i picked it up. i was a noob when this happened, and i sold it back for 10k..... so mad. ;D
Lmao sold it for 10k :D
Money was way more valuable back in the day... 1m was a lot of money for average players. I remember a whip costing 3m and no one hardly ever Had it..... Now that's Childs play. :-/
Inflation. It wasn't good for America, so it can't be good for RS either.
Quote from: Kryptonite on March 27, 2012, 11:16:43 PM
Inflation. It wasn't good for America, so it can't be good for RS either.
Lmao Kane, such great logics
Quote from: Kryptonite on March 27, 2012, 11:16:43 PM
Inflation. It wasn't good for America, so it can't be good for RS either.
Don't forget to mention, it might have triggered rulers of other nations to raise costs also... RS didn't go easy on that did it now?
Quote from: Recoil on March 27, 2012, 05:33:08 PM
Quote from: Grievous on March 27, 2012, 03:49:09 AM
Yeah, I read it, and to me it sounds like you just miss your childhood. You're talking about the "old days", but if you've played RS recently, you'd know that the game really isn't that bad. It's the community that's bad. It's like this; Is MW2 bad because you can noob-tube, OMA, Danger close? The game is alright, but it's the community that has chosen that setup, not the game. Meh, bad example, but you get my point?
I get your point, but I'm saying I really don't like the game anymore. The community is just another small downfall. It's not that I Miss my Childhood it's that I miss the game.. Idk if you've played it in earlier days, but if you haven't I understand your confusion on why I don't like it anymore.
It's not like I tried playing it, X-ed it out and never played again. I have played it (tried to, almost unwillingly) play for a long long time to give Jagex a second chance, because I once loved them so much. We've obviously been set up in different situations and that's ok, I know it's hard to see each other's points.
Say your favorite game is CoD for example (using that because you mentioned MW2, you can really insert anything for CoD). Wouldn't you be pissed if you loved it the way it is and they COMPLETELY changed it around? I sure as hell Am.
Alright, well, then tell me, what changed about the GAME (Not the community) that you are so mad about? Because if it's the "first time you got 10K" and you were so happy, then that's not really the game. If you're mad about new skills (Slayer, Hunter, Dungeoneering), new graphics and not items, then that's obviously the game changing. Tell me if I'm wrong.
Why don't you look back at my original post where I talk about changes in the game.
Yeah, maybe you should tell me once more, because I couldn't tell.
Just visited RS, walked around Edgeville donating money to noobs (:
Quote from: Grievous on March 29, 2012, 11:28:10 AM
Yeah, maybe you should tell me once more, because I couldn't tell.
My primary argument as to why I am Disappointed in them is the graphics, there were others though. If you're too lazy to look back then I'm not going to waste my time Doing it for you.