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Title: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: garrdrenn1 on January 08, 2012, 03:10:13 AM
I got to thinking about this today and was wondering what everybody thought. How about adding a new token that players could trade large sums of cash (billions, 100 millions ect.) for and let us trade them instead of rares?

It would work something like this. A new npc is placed somewhere (or you could use the bankers).  The player then trades that npc and buys the tokens. And there you have it, new currency  for worldscape. :)
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Jake on January 08, 2012, 04:03:53 AM
This wouldn't "fix" th economy. It would just change money to token.

It's not like it's getting rid of money.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Kryptonite on January 08, 2012, 02:02:46 PM
I pay for things with sharks. Lol. It seems to work okay.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: garrdrenn1 on January 08, 2012, 05:29:58 PM
Quote from: Jake on January 08, 2012, 04:03:53 AM
This wouldn't "fix" th economy. It would just change money to token.

It's not like it's getting rid of money.

I'm not talking about getting rid of money, this would be making it where a player could carry around more money therefore you could actually put a price on most items. It would be just like paper money in the real world. Since the U.S. dollar use to represent a certain amount of gold, this would be the same thing but o worldscape.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Kevin on January 08, 2012, 06:51:36 PM
A good currency that people can easily use is Ores, Raw/Cooked food, herbs, unfinished potions. There are a number of things people can do to fix the economy. Since we've added buy x and sell x to shops for 508 people have been mass dumping their duped items from old classic. I can't tell you how many times I go into theshop and I see millions of barrows sets or millions of dragon armour. People don't realize when they do this, but they are actually slowly fixing the economy. We keep adding new items into the game and when we do that we make the game a better place.

People may not agree with some of the changes that have been made but a perfect example of the game changing for the better is look back a year from now. When you would pk what would you get? A set that you already had thousands of, and you would earn reputation. To me that was boring. Now we have new wepeons, amour, food, magic. Pking is actually harder now, you can actually risk things, you actually can earn a profit from pking now.

The economy on WorldScape is shot, but it is slowly reviving itself back to health. Give it some time. We still have a ton more updates up our sleeves and each of them will slowly fix the economy. :D
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Kryptonite on January 08, 2012, 06:55:49 PM
Quote from: Kevin on January 08, 2012, 06:51:36 PM
A good currency that people can easily use is Ores, Raw/Cooked food, herbs, unfinished potions. There are a number of things people can do to fix the economy. Since we've added buy x and sell x to shops for 508 people have been mass dumping their duped items from old classic. I can't tell you how many times I go into theshop and I see millions of barrows sets or millions of dragon armour. People don't realize when they do this, but they are actually slowly fixing the economy. We keep adding new items into the game and when we do that we make the game a better place.

People may not agree with some of the changes that have been made but a perfect example of the game changing for the better is look back a year from now. When you would pk what would you get? A set that you already had thousands of, and you would earn reputation. To me that was boring. Now we have new wepeons, amour, food, magic. Pking is actually harder now, you can actually risk things, you actually can earn a profit from pking now.

The economy on WorldScape is shot, but it is slowly reviving itself back to health. Give it some time. We still have a ton more updates up our sleeves and each of them will slowly fix the economy. :D

+1

Definitely agree with the PKing thing. Although, @Garden, you can pretty much toss your hope of coins having any sort of value some day to the trash because I don't think that'll ever happen.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: garrdrenn1 on January 08, 2012, 09:58:01 PM
Quote from: Kryptonite on January 08, 2012, 06:55:49 PM
Quote from: Kevin on January 08, 2012, 06:51:36 PM
A good currency that people can easily use is Ores, Raw/Cooked food, herbs, unfinished potions. There are a number of things people can do to fix the economy. Since we've added buy x and sell x to shops for 508 people have been mass dumping their duped items from old classic. I can't tell you how many times I go into theshop and I see millions of barrows sets or millions of dragon armour. People don't realize when they do this, but they are actually slowly fixing the economy. We keep adding new items into the game and when we do that we make the game a better place.

People may not agree with some of the changes that have been made but a perfect example of the game changing for the better is look back a year from now. When you would pk what would you get? A set that you already had thousands of, and you would earn reputation. To me that was boring. Now we have new wepeons, amour, food, magic. Pking is actually harder now, you can actually risk things, you actually can earn a profit from pking now.

The economy on WorldScape is shot, but it is slowly reviving itself back to health. Give it some time. We still have a ton more updates up our sleeves and each of them will slowly fix the economy. :D

+1

Definitely agree with the PKing thing. Although, @Garden, you can pretty much toss your hope of coins having any sort of value some day to the trash because I don't think that'll ever happen.

It seemed like a good idea at the time lol.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Kryptonite on January 08, 2012, 10:45:20 PM
Yeah I admit it's not a bad idea, but there's just so many people with max cash and tons of duped barrows that there would be people trading it tons of max cash stacks for it and then there would be the people who don't have tons of sets of these things and not a lot of cash who would end up being really "poor" compared to the other people. Basically a ton of people would get rich all at once all over again.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Wild on January 09, 2012, 02:51:26 PM
If we want the economy fixed every item should be deleted.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: garrdrenn1 on January 09, 2012, 06:31:58 PM
Quote from: Wild on January 09, 2012, 02:51:26 PM
If we want the economy fixed every item should be deleted.

I would be 100% fine with that. I don't know about everybody else.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Kryptonite on January 09, 2012, 07:13:35 PM
Not every item...
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Kevin on January 10, 2012, 06:31:36 AM
If you guys will agree with it, we can roll back every item to a certain amount in each persons bank. Say make every stack in your bank be maxed to say 3,000 that will be a roll-back not a complete reset. Items would have more value but it would be a big loss for a lot of people. (This would include every item, tokens, coins, ores, food, ect.)
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: M I K E on January 10, 2012, 08:38:15 AM
Delete barrows items, dragon items, rune items and other high amount items? O_o money also
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Jake on January 10, 2012, 09:21:03 AM
The day we start rolling back items is the day Worldscape dies. Not a smart idea.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Dug on January 10, 2012, 10:58:53 AM
Quote from: Jake on January 10, 2012, 09:21:03 AM
The day we start rolling back items is the day Worldscape dies. Not a smart idea.
I have to mention something, the day herblore beta arrived, was the day the unfinished potions that people had already happened to have in their bank, had disappeared. For example, I lost 11 guam potions along with 10 of each other unfinished potion that i got [If you would think of being smart and saving those phats from the specialphat spawn area] Legit. Although i was feeling sad, i felt excited that everyone would be starting off anew with some exceptions.
But on the other hand, i wouldn't agree with the roll-back to reduce items, seeing as most of the community, had achieved their items with no shortcuts. If this does happen, well all i can say is gf 183k tukul, and 779 rune bars.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Kryptonite on January 10, 2012, 05:55:29 PM
Quote from: Kevin on January 10, 2012, 06:31:36 AM
If you guys will agree with it, we can roll back every item to a certain amount in each persons bank. Say make every stack in your bank be maxed to say 3,000 that will be a roll-back not a complete reset. Items would have more value but it would be a big loss for a lot of people. (This would include every item, tokens, coins, ores, food, ect.)

I like this idea, except I'd lose my 14k raw sharks I worked hard for :\
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: garrdrenn1 on January 10, 2012, 10:50:19 PM
Quote from: M I K E on January 10, 2012, 08:38:15 AM
Delete barrows items, dragon items, rune items and other high amount items? O_o money also

I would agree with rolling back barrows/dragon/rune items and money. But also whips, dds, rune boots, strength amulets and other obviously duped items.

Quote from: Kevin on January 10, 2012, 06:31:36 AM
If you guys will agree with it, we can roll back every item to a certain amount in each persons bank. Say make every stack in your bank be maxed to say 3,000 that will be a roll-back not a complete reset. Items would have more value but it would be a big loss for a lot of people. (This would include every item, tokens, coins, ores, food, ect.)

I like this idea also,but I wouldn't want anybody to rage quit. I do want to say that I have seen many new players quit because they couldn't figure out what items are worth. Who knows? A major rollback could be good for worldscape, maybe somebody should make a poll to see what everybody thinks?
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Kryptonite on January 10, 2012, 11:41:07 PM
I think there should be a topic where the community posts obviously duped items and then the ones mentioned should be reset.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Jake on January 11, 2012, 01:57:48 AM
The game wouldn't be the same if all the items were reset. As Kevin said the economy is slowly getting better without massively rolling back items so i say we keep it that way.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: garrdrenn1 on January 11, 2012, 03:16:50 AM
Quote from: Kryptonite on January 10, 2012, 11:41:07 PM
I think there should be a topic where the community posts obviously duped items and then the ones mentioned should be reset.

That's a great idea. A staff member should do that topic right?

Edit: +1 to kryptonite, you always have great points when you post.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: gomes97 on January 11, 2012, 11:08:42 AM
remove northpole.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: freak m4n on January 11, 2012, 12:24:21 PM
Quote from: gomes97 on January 11, 2012, 11:08:42 AM
remove northpole.

How's that going to fix the economy.. :L
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: gomes97 on January 11, 2012, 01:22:38 PM
Quote from: freak m4n on January 11, 2012, 12:24:21 PM
Quote from: gomes97 on January 11, 2012, 11:08:42 AM
remove northpole.

How's that going to fix the economy.. :L
thats the place where you can get dharoks gutans barrows stuff then you fix one of the economy
and remeber the people get whip and sell it on theshop so when you remove it its hard to get cash when you dont have barrows stuff.
and maybe when you kill a men to get 3 coins and not 50.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Yoho on January 11, 2012, 01:26:21 PM
Make otherworldly world beings drop dragon (Rare), make barrows rewards actually barrows and all the 474 stuff you currently get from barrows from bosses?
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: gomes97 on January 11, 2012, 02:00:08 PM
when you wanna know what you need to fix you first needs to know how you start.
maybe is it good to dont have 135 because you make money which skills.
like when you have fishing 99 you can fish sharks and when you make it 99 its hard to get you fishing high and make it.
i hope somebody understand me because it was hard for me tell you guys. ;) ;D
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: garrdrenn1 on January 11, 2012, 03:01:57 PM
Quote from: Yoho on January 11, 2012, 01:26:21 PM
Make otherworldly world beings drop dragon (Rare), make barrows rewards actually barrows and all the 474 stuff you currently get from barrows from bosses?

This would be pretty awesome. 8)

Quote from: gomes97 on January 11, 2012, 02:00:08 PM
when you wanna know what you need to fix you first needs to know how you start.
maybe is it good to dont have 135 because you make money which skills.
like when you have fishing 99 you can fish sharks and when you make it 99 its hard to get you fishing high and make it.
i hope somebody understand me because it was hard for me tell you guys. ;) ;D


I can usually understand you pretty good but not this time, sorry :(.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Chaoslancex on January 11, 2012, 04:24:41 PM
Quote from: Mute on January 11, 2012, 01:38:32 PM
If you lot weren't such lazy asses, Ry wouldn't have removed blitz and we could've played on a server with a stable economy, more skills and general more awesome.

That's all, on this economy the only way to fix it is to delete everything and start fresh oh oh i know your going to say that people will rage and some might quit but to be honest the only way to actually make it fair an fix it will be to start fresh and for those who say no it's because there noobs and they know they wont be able to get items the legit way not the way where they get x100mill of each item easily.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Kryptonite on January 11, 2012, 05:08:50 PM
Quote from: Chaoslancex on January 11, 2012, 04:24:41 PM
Quote from: Mute on January 11, 2012, 01:38:32 PM
If you lot weren't such lazy asses, Ry wouldn't have removed blitz and we could've played on a server with a stable economy, more skills and general more awesome.

That's all, on this economy the only way to fix it is to delete everything and start fresh oh oh i know your going to say that people will rage and some might quit but to be honest the only way to actually make it fair an fix it will be to start fresh and for those who say no it's because there noobs and they know they wont be able to get items the legit way not the way where they get x100mill of each item easily.

What about people who legit got like 10 - 20k sharks fishing? That'd suck a lot for them lol. I really think we should just reset the duped items, not all of the items.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Chaoslancex on January 11, 2012, 05:17:00 PM
Quote from: Kryptonite on January 11, 2012, 05:08:50 PM
Quote from: Chaoslancex on January 11, 2012, 04:24:41 PM
Quote from: Mute on January 11, 2012, 01:38:32 PM
If you lot weren't such lazy asses, Ry wouldn't have removed blitz and we could've played on a server with a stable economy, more skills and general more awesome.

That's all, on this economy the only way to fix it is to delete everything and start fresh oh oh i know your going to say that people will rage and some might quit but to be honest the only way to actually make it fair an fix it will be to start fresh and for those who say no it's because there noobs and they know they wont be able to get items the legit way not the way where they get x100mill of each item easily.

What about people who legit got like 10 - 20k sharks fishing? That'd suck a lot for them lol. I really think we should just reset the duped items, not all of the items.

true, but for the sake of everyone maybe the amount that everyone has can be lowered per example the large ammounts of dh, rune g, dark cavs, items that for sure have been duped. then again there is no way to know
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: garrdrenn1 on January 11, 2012, 05:17:35 PM
Quote from: Kryptonite on January 11, 2012, 05:08:50 PM
Quote from: Chaoslancex on January 11, 2012, 04:24:41 PM
Quote from: Mute on January 11, 2012, 01:38:32 PM
If you lot weren't such lazy asses, Ry wouldn't have removed blitz and we could've played on a server with a stable economy, more skills and general more awesome.

That's all, on this economy the only way to fix it is to delete everything and start fresh oh oh i know your going to say that people will rage and some might quit but to be honest the only way to actually make it fair an fix it will be to start fresh and for those who say no it's because there noobs and they know they wont be able to get items the legit way not the way where they get x100mill of each item easily.

What about people who legit got like 10 - 20k sharks fishing? That'd suck a lot for them lol. I really think we should just reset the duped items, not all of the items.

I'm still with kryptonite on this. If only we could get kevin or another admin to make that topic you metioned earlier? Or maybe a poll to see if the majority of the community wants the major dupes fixed?
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Kryptonite on January 11, 2012, 05:27:29 PM
Quote from: Chaoslancex on January 11, 2012, 05:17:00 PM
Quote from: Kryptonite on January 11, 2012, 05:08:50 PM
Quote from: Chaoslancex on January 11, 2012, 04:24:41 PM
Quote from: Mute on January 11, 2012, 01:38:32 PM
If you lot weren't such lazy asses, Ry wouldn't have removed blitz and we could've played on a server with a stable economy, more skills and general more awesome.

That's all, on this economy the only way to fix it is to delete everything and start fresh oh oh i know your going to say that people will rage and some might quit but to be honest the only way to actually make it fair an fix it will be to start fresh and for those who say no it's because there noobs and they know they wont be able to get items the legit way not the way where they get x100mill of each item easily.

What about people who legit got like 10 - 20k sharks fishing? That'd suck a lot for them lol. I really think we should just reset the duped items, not all of the items.

true, but for the sake of everyone maybe the amount that everyone has can be lowered per example the large ammounts of dh, rune g, dark cavs, items that for sure have been duped. then again there is no way to know

I'd be fine with that.
Quote from: garrdrenn1 on January 11, 2012, 05:17:35 PM
Quote from: Kryptonite on January 11, 2012, 05:08:50 PM
Quote from: Chaoslancex on January 11, 2012, 04:24:41 PM
Quote from: Mute on January 11, 2012, 01:38:32 PM
If you lot weren't such lazy asses, Ry wouldn't have removed blitz and we could've played on a server with a stable economy, more skills and general more awesome.

That's all, on this economy the only way to fix it is to delete everything and start fresh oh oh i know your going to say that people will rage and some might quit but to be honest the only way to actually make it fair an fix it will be to start fresh and for those who say no it's because there noobs and they know they wont be able to get items the legit way not the way where they get x100mill of each item easily.

What about people who legit got like 10 - 20k sharks fishing? That'd suck a lot for them lol. I really think we should just reset the duped items, not all of the items.

I'm still with kryptonite on this. If only we could get kevin or another admin to make that topic you metioned earlier? Or maybe a poll to see if the majority of the community wants the major dupes fixed?

The dupes are fixed lol. And yeah I think somewhere where we can all work together to find all of the duped items faster would be nice. And then they can reset them.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: garrdrenn1 on January 11, 2012, 05:33:35 PM
I know the dupes are fixed, just bad wording right there lol :P.
Title: Re: How to possibly fix the economy.
Post by: Kevin on January 11, 2012, 08:35:58 PM
www.worldscapeblitz.com/blitz/smf/index.php/topic,12331

Move this discussion there.