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le updated again!

nobody plays rs3

come play osrs, such fun much nostalgia

Quote from: Kryptonite on November 16, 2014, 09:30:09 PM
thanks

Get online ya scrawb

Quote from: Predator on November 16, 2014, 06:21:20 AM
James, I don't want to get in a fight with you. I gave it my best to speak for myself for what I though was right, but it has come to my understanding that no matter what I say you have some lawyer answer to it.
I would like a big community, I just think it's sad to see my progress being lost as i've spent the past month or so grinding.

About 3 weeks ago I was told that I would be given a chance to make an advertisment for Worldscape, in an attempt to get players, if however this offer still stands, i'd like to give it a try as i'm moving into a new house in about a week.

If you honestly belive that you will keep interest in updating the new worldscape, I support it.

I'm not fighting with you, and I didn't see you fighting with me. This is a discussion thread, and I was giving you reasoning as to why the pro's outway the con's. And of course I'd still allow you to make an advertisement topic, nothing has changed. I do believe that we can get Worldscape turned around -- IF WE CAN ALL RALLY TOGETHER. Let's show Ryan that Worldscape deserves more attention and that we're willing to do anything possible to get that attention.

Quote from: Recoil on November 16, 2014, 04:47:36 AM
James if you really want to try and push weekly updates I could do my best to help you on Sundays and I'm sure Kane would as well. I haven't gotten into a lot of coding shit lately but I'd love to see weekly updates here.

I wish it was as easy as that. Unfortunately, without the API, I'm stuck doing regular developer stuff, like working with the tables. I'd like to have access to the api or the plugins, that way the stuff that i want to get done could get done a lot sooner.

This is a pretty good idea. I wonder if there are any packages that are available for SMF that make that integration easier. It's definately worth taking a look at.

Quote from: Predator on November 16, 2014, 03:11:54 AM
"You have got to be one of the most selfish people I've ever met."
just because i stand up for what i've worked on, and how i want to progress further makes me selfish?

"I think we should just totally reset Worldscape and delete all of the old character files, that way you do lose your stuff."
You've seen the screenshot before, couldn't find it o.o not gonna matter anyways though, yo're just conna come up with some BS reason how this doesn't effect anything.

"We would have to pay for MORE WEBSITES"
The $270 something dollars i donated should probably help out with that, because that's where the money donated it spent, right? or..? atleast that's what were told.

"Ryan will say anythings a good idea ..."
maybe, but that's what he said, and that's why i said it. I can't predict that he means something else then what he says.

"I could guarantee that all we would see on the  ... I quit because of lack of updat ... even though we would have announced that it's not supported anymore."
IF it was announced that it wouldn't have any support, why would I complain about lack of updates?
And why do you think i complain about lack of updates James? BECAUSE THERE ARE NO UPDATES. I don't know who's fault it is, and i don't really care either, but don't go out there saying that the lack of players are because of anything buy the lack of updates.

"we're not going to do only what YOU want ..."
Well sorry James, for reporting a bug.

"From what I can see ... don't give A shit about the community ... only what's good for Petter"
Wait.. what? where did you get that from?

"It's also kind of shitty ... run between the three of us ... only what you want done ... the Tokkul thing"
I never tried to run between any of you, but if you're not online, I message ryan, if ryan is not online I message you. if non of you are online, I message the chat. but from experience, that just brings up arguments, so i tried to avoid ANOTHER argument, not cross any of you.

"99% of the community agrees that this is the direction we need to go, the 1% (you) won't hold us back from trying to revive Worldscape."
First of al James, we're not 100 people in this community. And second of all, i'm not trying to hold anything back, go ahead and restart everything if you really think that you can manage to update a server. witch is something I doubt.

1. Standing up for what you worked on? Dude, come on now. We already established that you've used duped items for different stats, and if I'm not mistaken you've been caught botting before.Also, not to say you're guilty, but the amount of times you've been accused of using bots the past few months kind of speaks for itself in regards to "earning." In addition to that, you were given unreleased items by Ryan.

2. That screen shot means nothing. WE OWN YOUR ACCOUNT, YOU DO NOT OWN IT. We can reset anything we want, at any time we want, without any reasoning. You agreed to it in the original terms of service. See below.

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Your account is classified as an idea, submission, specification, and code. Therefor, it is our property to do with it as we please.

3. I don't think you realize how much there is in server upkeep. Each domain costs us $9.99 to $22.99 PER MONTH. On top of that, the VPS that we use to run the forums and the developer world costs $23.99 PER MONTH. On top of that, Ryan is responsible for paying 50% of his parent's electric bill, which the bill in full is usually well over $350 PER MONTH, which makes Ryan paying $175 PER MONTH.  The total cost (approximation) to run the servers each month is $320. I, and Ryan and Kevin, appreciate you and everyone elses donations very much, but just because you donated does not mean you get a special say in what goes on with the server, nor any special treatments. Ultimately again, donating benefits YOU as well, because YOU also get items. Also, neither Kevin nor myself control any type of donations or finances. I'd be more than happy to bring Ryan into this to discuss the server finances, and how most months it ends up being one of us paying to keep everything afloat.

4. I agree with you there. Not much I can say on that as I am not Ryan. But, I have known Ryan for several years, and I know he's a genuinely nice guy who doesn't want to make people feel bad. I could suggest to him right now that we should make a server called pissscape where the entire goal of the server is to piss on a flower, and he would say it would be a good idea to not hurt my feelings.

5. Because frankly, I know you. You seem to be the one that complains the most about lack of updates, even when we DO push out updates they seem to be not good enough for you.  I was promised that something I really wanted done for Worldscape would be done in three weeks, unfortunately it hasn't been done in that time frame. I would LOVE to be able to push out updates every week, but unless I get some help that's just not something I can do. As with Ryan and Kevin, the servers are not the most important things in my life. They are very dear and precious to me, but they are not #1.

6. I don't see how Tokkul being untradeable is a "bug." You attempted to lie to Ryan to make it tradeable to use it for your own gain, when we looked at the old Winterlove source and saw that Tokkul was in fact untradeable. We're keeping it untradeable, because like everything else in the economy, it was duped heavily. No point in adding extra fuel to a forest fire that's already blazing out of control.

7. That's about as false as it gets. You messaged me asking to make tokkul tradeable, I said no. You went and asked Ryan, Ryan asked me if I'd talked to you about it, and I told him I had, and therefore Ryan said no.

8. I never said we're a 100 player community. That was a bit of an exaggeration, but it's close to the truth. Every single person I've talked to (and yes, I've sat down and talked to a bunch of people individually on the topic, as well as yourself) besides you is 100% behind it. And on top of that, you proved my point. Worldscape has had more updates in the past month and a half that I took over than it has in almost two years. That argument isn't valid anymore. Sure, it's not updated as much as I would like, but I'm limited to things I can release since a few bad admins/owners over the years released pretty much every item into the economy, and then those items were duped. This update would change that drastically, as it would give me the ability to potentially make different stages of boss monsters that drop different items that are considered "rare" now without everyone going nuts. It would give us the ability to have events where we're giving out items that haven't already been released. It would make the game a lot more fair and balanced, as opposed to two people controlling the entire economy, so that when new players log on they're not instantly turned off because there's no way in hell they're going to be rich and successful on Worldscape due to other players getting lucky and being handed out items.

Quote from: Predator on November 15, 2014, 01:24:34 PM
How about we open a whole new server with the same exact worldscape code, but without the levels and what not. I talked to ryan about this a few days ago, and he though it was a great idea.

You have got to be one of the most selfish people I've ever met. I think we should just totally reset Worldscape and delete all of the old character files, that way you do lose your stuff. Ryan will say anythings a good idea, because he's too nice of a guy. We would have to pay for MORE WEBSITES, we would have to find time (which is hard to come by, especially time with Ryan if you haven't noticed) to develop not only three servers but FOUR servers. We would split up a small community EVEN FURTHER. And on top of that, even if we say hey, we're just going to completely abandon Worldscape and focus on this "new Worldscape" I could guarantee that all we would see on the old Worldscape forums is 100 posts a month FROM YOU talking about how shitty of a job we're doing developing the server blah blah blah I quit because of lack of updates blah blah blah, even though we would have announced that it's not supported anymore.

I'm done. Petter, I like you. BUT, you need to realize that we're not going to do only what YOU want, which is all I see you wanting to get accomplished. From what I can see, you don't give A shit about the community itself, only what's good for Petter.  It's also kind of shitty that you keep attempting to run between the three of us attempting to get only what you want done; for example, the Tokkul thing.  99% of the community agrees that this is the direction we need to go, the 1% (you) won't hold us back from trying to revive Worldscape.

#Rantover

Updated!

Didn't play a lot today, leveled up fishing a bit, and then trained construction.

Quote from: Kryptonite on November 14, 2014, 01:14:03 AM
Post stat and quest list updates!

Stat update is up for the day. I might make like a bank vid/quest update tomorrow. My bank's pretty shit, but it's worth it considering I started with nothing.

BTW Kane, you should start playing. It's addicting as shit xD

Monkey Madness is done, :-).

Waiting for my questing buddy (happyguy3216 or Austin) to get on so we can quest more.

If any of you ever do decide to play osrs, and decide to quest I strongly recommend doing it with someone else.  Doing 4-5 quests alone each day is lonely as f*ck

Quote from: Kryptonite on November 13, 2014, 03:59:30 PM
RFD is fun if you approach it with a positive attitude. I had a lot of fun getting all the requirements and everything to get myself rune gloves.

Yeah. Doing Monkey Madness at the moment at 60 combat, without 43 prayer xD. It's definately a challenge, but I'm about 3/4ths of the way done with it.

I've already done most of the quests that I hate (Ichtlarin's Little Helper, The Grand Tree, etc.)

Really the only sucky ones left are RFD and the Fremmenik Quests.

Updated again, been doing a shit load of questing. 96 QP's at the moment, and will only go up. Thinking about going for a quest cape, then figuring out what skill to go after.

Mia was joking lol. Her and Dylan fight like an old married couple. You all should join our telegram/Skype calls :D